tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post2970451203815704993..comments2023-12-29T22:43:36.136+02:00Comments on Soo Shim Kwan 水心館수심관: Philosophical Congruence of the Sine Wave MotionSkryfblokhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00329458286217107784noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-77646619947475334082018-11-22T18:27:45.268+02:002018-11-22T18:27:45.268+02:00'do' adhere'do' adhereTim Swobodanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-44936410789213104532018-11-22T18:24:16.563+02:002018-11-22T18:24:16.563+02:00I love this blog. It is brilliant and a great reso...I love this blog. It is brilliant and a great resource. <br /><br />I believe I am utilizing more of the Tai Chi Chaun coil power ala Qigong then adherence to sine wave. I love your descriptions of the rhythm and biodynamics of the sine wave and I don't I adhere to them in concept but I do individualize each movement and focus on grounding my stance which can obstruct a flow. <br /><br />What I am sure of however...I am looking firward to my next workout!Tim Swobodanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-87150814568713877542018-11-22T06:02:04.392+02:002018-11-22T06:02:04.392+02:00Tim, I think you are adhering to the technical pri...Tim, I think you are adhering to the technical principles that the sine wave is supposed to offer. That is great. Sometimes I see people do the "sine wave" but lack the technical application that would make it sensible. For instance, using a body drop where it would not make sense (such as during an upward punch) or leaving out hip rotation where it is necessary (e.g. knife hand side strike). What you are doing sounds much preferable than such a fanatical adherence to the sine wave.Skryfblokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00329458286217107784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-28815746683858287982018-11-21T18:36:18.430+02:002018-11-21T18:36:18.430+02:00Opps...that was me Mr. AnonymousOpps...that was me Mr. AnonymousTim Swobodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07747285746159331444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-39278934449209813692018-11-21T18:33:57.115+02:002018-11-21T18:33:57.115+02:00General Choi came to one of our tournaments in 197...General Choi came to one of our tournaments in 1973. I did not know who he was. He knew my Master who was one of the first wave of Masters to come abroad. As I recollect the Sine Wave had not been introduced at that time. I eventually moved for a while to another State and that Master was one of the same. While I was there he went to a council / seminar in Korea (I believe it was the late 70's). When he came back he introduced us to the Sine Wave. He indicated it had been introduced and accepted at the seminar. Whether General Choi was there I don't know. <br /><br />Please fill in any blanks :P<br /><br />Nowadays, I use a very abbreviated motion of the sine wave (body drop) with a added hip twist. My focus on Taegeukdo is summoning energy with the soft, in between, and then applying it with intent/focus at the apex of the technique.<br /><br />I do not use a one, two count or three...though it is prevalent throughout our organization. I rather focus on the rhythm of each technique separately...to give each its own integrity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-57209493127302450792013-02-04T23:23:01.169+02:002013-02-04T23:23:01.169+02:00Sounds like it will be an interesting post about Y...Sounds like it will be an interesting post about Yul-Gok. I have a few ideas about what could possibly relate to Taekkyon in that pattern so I look forward to reading your thoughts on the matter.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-32516680972220244712013-02-04T17:10:13.183+02:002013-02-04T17:10:13.183+02:00Hi Chris,
About people's disregard of Taekkye...Hi Chris,<br /><br />About people's disregard of Taekkyeon: Yes, it is difficult to prove without a doubt the connection that ITF Taekwon-Do has with Taekkyeon since there are very little written documentation; however, as you noted, there are quite a number of techniques in ITF that match techniques in Taekkyeon, but which is absent in Shotokan. Also, people that have practised in both ITF and Taekkyeon (like myself and some of my friends) all affirm that the rhythm and body dropping is uncanny. Even people with only moderate cross-training between the two styles come to the same conclusion. On the other hand, this "bouncy" rhythm and emphasis on dropping the body weight is not common to traditional Karate. <br /><br />(To leave you with a mysterious closing: I believe the pattern Yul-Gok is the key. I plan to write a post on this when I have time to research my hypothesis better.)<br /><br />SooShimKwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08864922377526465321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-68624917586078027152013-02-03T22:48:27.916+02:002013-02-03T22:48:27.916+02:00Interesting follow-up post regarding Korean music....Interesting follow-up post regarding Korean music. The emphasis on the last beat in the sequence definitely lines up with the finnal settling of the body weight in a technique and the final drop in a sine wave. <br /><br />FWIW, when I mentioned my instructors counting out "one-AND-two" the emphasis on the AND was to make sure people were taking enough time to properlly prepare the technique for execution (i.e. so they performed in a "non-Japanese" way). There was still a greater emphasis on the "two" for the tensing of the body at the end of the technique itself.<br /><br />I've recently been discussing the influence of Taekkyon on Taekwon-Do with some people. While they acknowledge the influence of Shotokan (and Shudokan to a lesser extent) and disregard the "Taekwon-Do is 2,000 years old" argument it seems that their acceptance of karate now means they won't even consider Taekkyon's influence. My position is that while there are *some* techniques that probably come from Taekkyon (twisting kick, checking kicks, foot tackling, and perhaps a couple others) the main influence is in how Gen. Choi developed the body weight dropping in sine wave. Unfortunately it seems that absent any sort of written documentation they won't even entertain the idea.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-37316593065229638712013-01-29T07:59:17.330+02:002013-01-29T07:59:17.330+02:00Hi Chris,
Thank you for your comment. You will no...Hi Chris,<br /><br />Thank you for your comment. You will notice that my latest post on traditional Korean music was in part inspired by your comment.<br /><br />The Dr. Kimm interview was in a Totally Tae Kwon Do magazine from two or so months back. SooShimKwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08864922377526465321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1232825159765940340.post-80835939176307446392013-01-25T00:28:45.830+02:002013-01-25T00:28:45.830+02:00Great post. I recall having my instructors talk ab...Great post. I recall having my instructors talk about the timing we should have for fundamental exercises and pattern techniques back in the mid 1980's. They'd often count in class, "One-AND-two!" so people would get the correct timing and rhythm. That actually lines up quite well with a 1, 2, 3 pattern. <br /><br />I'll have to see if I can get that Dr. Kimm interview. I'd be very interested to hear what he has to say on the subject in toto.Chrisnoreply@blogger.com